Comments on: Privilege http://www.fatuosity.net/2009/10/22/privilege/ on fat embodiement and sexual subjectivity Sat, 24 Jul 2010 00:58:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: sizeoftheocean http://www.fatuosity.net/2009/10/22/privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-96 sizeoftheocean Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:10:43 +0000 http://www.fatuosity.net/?p=81#comment-96 Masquerade - Thanks for the feedback. I'm happy for you to link to my post, but I'm a bit not so happy that you've re-posted it wholesale on your blog before I've even had a chance to respond. Masquerade – Thanks for the feedback.

I’m happy for you to link to my post, but I’m a bit not so happy that you’ve re-posted it wholesale on your blog before I’ve even had a chance to respond.

]]> By: Masquerade http://www.fatuosity.net/2009/10/22/privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-95 Masquerade Mon, 18 Jan 2010 07:55:38 +0000 http://www.fatuosity.net/?p=81#comment-95 I really like this post. If you don't mind I'd like to feature it on my blog. :) I really like this post. If you don’t mind I’d like to feature it on my blog. :)

]]> By: Thankful Thursday « Living ~400lbs http://www.fatuosity.net/2009/10/22/privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Thankful Thursday « Living ~400lbs Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:37:49 +0000 http://www.fatuosity.net/?p=81#comment-47 [...] insightful post on what it’s like to be fat: “I’m usually the fattest person in the room.  I’m often the only fat person in the [...] [...] insightful post on what it’s like to be fat: “I’m usually the fattest person in the room.  I’m often the only fat person in the [...]

]]> By: sizeoftheocean http://www.fatuosity.net/2009/10/22/privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-46 sizeoftheocean Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:58:20 +0000 http://www.fatuosity.net/?p=81#comment-46 I absolutely agree that privilege is not an individual attribute, but a structural one. An individual also can't give up or share their privilege with someone who doesn't have it, but they can be conscious of how they use it (I think Lesley's post outlines all of that wonderfully, so I didn't go back over it myself). I think what I'm trying to get at is how not having privilege operates not only on a structural level, but becomes part of the self. Having a fat body means not having easy access to certain social spaces, and the lifelong experience of that forms a different kind of subject. Which is absolutely not to say that all (or only) fat people are therefore shy or outcasts or any other characteristic, but that there are larger forces which make access to certain ways of being or modes of expression (eg, through clothing) harder for people who have certain attributes. I absolutely agree that privilege is not an individual attribute, but a structural one. An individual also can’t give up or share their privilege with someone who doesn’t have it, but they can be conscious of how they use it (I think Lesley’s post outlines all of that wonderfully, so I didn’t go back over it myself).

I think what I’m trying to get at is how not having privilege operates not only on a structural level, but becomes part of the self. Having a fat body means not having easy access to certain social spaces, and the lifelong experience of that forms a different kind of subject.

Which is absolutely not to say that all (or only) fat people are therefore shy or outcasts or any other characteristic, but that there are larger forces which make access to certain ways of being or modes of expression (eg, through clothing) harder for people who have certain attributes.

]]> By: HairyLegs http://www.fatuosity.net/2009/10/22/privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-45 HairyLegs Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:57:35 +0000 http://www.fatuosity.net/?p=81#comment-45 Great post! Great post!

]]> By: buttercup http://www.fatuosity.net/2009/10/22/privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-44 buttercup Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:22:08 +0000 http://www.fatuosity.net/?p=81#comment-44 "because not having it is constructed as an individual fault rather than part of a structural and/or cultural system" I think you put your finger on something really big there-because the converse is also true. Privilege itself is not an individual attribute. In most cases it isn't earned, it's given by default, by virtue of fitting into the dominant culture. And that's even without dragging the oft-ignored and hackle raising difference between privilege in the academic sense and the everyday sense. I have heard discussion of "couple privilege" in feminist discussion. It does exist. The rest of your post was outstanding as well. “because not having it is constructed as an individual fault rather than part of a structural and/or cultural system”

I think you put your finger on something really big there-because the converse is also true. Privilege itself is not an individual attribute. In most cases it isn’t earned, it’s given by default, by virtue of fitting into the dominant culture. And that’s even without dragging the oft-ignored and hackle raising difference between privilege in the academic sense and the everyday sense.

I have heard discussion of “couple privilege” in feminist discussion. It does exist.

The rest of your post was outstanding as well.

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